Podcast Episode 68: Matthew Ichihashi Potts and Sophfronia Scott – On Forgiveness

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ERB Podcast Producer Joel Wentz took over the host role for a vulnerable and thoughtful conversation on the topic of forgiveness with two first-time ERB guests, Matthew Ichihashi Potts and Sophfronia Scott. They discuss their personal narratives and experiences with forgiveness, the ways dominant cultural discussions of forgiveness can distort the concept, and what they are currently reading.

Matthew Ichihashi Potts is the Plummer Professor of Christian Morals at Harvard Divinity School and the Pusey Minister in the Memorial Church at Harvard University. He is author of the recent book, Forgiveness: An Alternative Account (Yale UP, 2022). Sophfronia Scott is a novelist, essayist, and leading contemplative thinker whose work has received a 2020 Artist Fellowship Grant from the Connecticut Office of the Arts. Her latest book is Wild, Beautiful, and Free, a historical novel set during the Civil War. Sophfronia is currently the director of Alma College’s MFA in Creative Writing, a low-residency graduate program based in Alma, Michigan. She lives in Sandy Hook, Connecticut.

Books Mentioned in this Episode:

If you’d like to order any of the following books, we encourage you to do so from Hearts and Minds Books(An independent bookstore in Dallastown, PA, run by Byron and Beth Borger) 

  • Forgiveness: An Alternative Account by Matthew Ichihashi Potts
  • Cormac McCarthy and the Signs of Sacrament: Literature, Theology and the Moral of Stories by Matthew Ichihashi Potts
  • The Seeker and the Monk: Everyday Conversations with Thomas Merton by Sophfronia Scott
  • Wild, Beautiful and Free: A Novel by Sophfronia Scott
  • Love’s Long Line (21st Century Essays) by Sophfronia Scott
  • The Seven Storey Mountain by Thomas Merton
  • The Moral Imagination: The Art and Soul of Building Peace by John Paul Lederach
  • The Wisdom Way of Knowing: Reclaiming an Ancient Tradition to Awaken the Heart by Cynthia Bourgealt
  • Moral Failure: On the Impossible Demands of Morality by Lisa Tessman
  • Thunderstone: A True Story of Losing One Home and Discovering Another by Nancy Campbell
  • LaRose: A Novel by Louise Erdrich
  • The Buried Giant by Kazuo Ishiguro
  • Be Useful by Arnold Schwarzenegger
  • Walk the Blue Fields: Stories by Claire Keegan
  • Small Things Like These by Claire Keegan
  • Foster by Claire Keegan
  • If Beale Street Could Talk by James Baldwin
  • The Unsettled: A Novel by Ayana Mathis
  • The Twelve Tribes of Hattie by Ayana Mathis
  • Those We Thought We Knew by David Joy

If you’d like to order any of the above books, we encourage you to do so from Hearts and Minds Books
(An independent bookstore in Dallastown, PA, run by Byron and Beth Borger)

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